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Right now, I'm a post-doc in cognitive neuroscience working with MEG and fMRI technologies. My background is:
bachelor's in psychology
master's in linguistics
doctorate in psychology and cognitive science
I am still in the process of developing my "own" research program. My graduate work concentrated on general memory, training and long-term retention issues, and second-language learning.
Specifically, I am interested in language learning and how the different sub-parts of the linguistic system can be used to inform our knowledge of neural plasticity. I'm attempting to combine my strengths in experimental design (from psychology - which is actually quite sophisticated in this regard), and my background in linguistics with converging evidence from neuroimaging techniques - fMRI which has relatively good spatial resolution, but poor temporal resolution with MEG which has excellent temporal resololution, but relatively poor temporal resolution.
bachelor's in psychology
master's in linguistics
doctorate in psychology and cognitive science
I am still in the process of developing my "own" research program. My graduate work concentrated on general memory, training and long-term retention issues, and second-language learning.
Specifically, I am interested in language learning and how the different sub-parts of the linguistic system can be used to inform our knowledge of neural plasticity. I'm attempting to combine my strengths in experimental design (from psychology - which is actually quite sophisticated in this regard), and my background in linguistics with converging evidence from neuroimaging techniques - fMRI which has relatively good spatial resolution, but poor temporal resolution with MEG which has excellent temporal resololution, but relatively poor temporal resolution.
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Sat, February 5, 2005 - 7:08 PM1. Q: fMRI which has relatively good spatial resolution, but poor temporal resolution with MEG which has excellent temporal resololution, but relatively poor temporal resolution.
A: Very interesting. Exactly how fast (slow) are fMRIs now? I recently had an MRI (of my head), what a primitive piece of…
They use a computer, but the only way they could give me the data was on film, which is really annoying. So I have to send the film to a friend of mine at Sony who has a large format drum scanner. Once I get the data, I can feed it into a system I have that will let me see everything in 3D. The xy axis will be very high resolution, given there are 16 images per sheet, and 4 sheets I will only have 64 slices of resolution, but I should be able to interpolate. I think it is pretty cool (and useful) to have a map of my body. I wish the price would come down also.
I made a cast of my teeth when I was about 17. My dentist recently said my teeth have been shifting, I checked the mold, and I disagree. I showed her the cast and she had to change her opinion. That saved me $7K in braces!
2. Q: I am still in the process of developing my "own" research program. My graduate work concentrated on general memory, training and long-term retention issues, and second-language learning.
A: Cool. English is my third language. So what do you call a person in Europe that speaks 5 languages? Waiter.
Jokes aside, what have you learned about people that contain more than one language. Of perhaps greater interest are people who contain more than one language structure (as in SOV, SVO). I can read more Japanese than I can speak, but I have a pictographic memory. I translated the Tao Te Ching directly, which turned out to be a pretty effective way to learn their sentence structure. However, does not help a lick since they have 4 prime spoken languages, and something like 10K dialects. But I can find my way around from the signs.
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Sun, February 6, 2005 - 11:03 AMBRKVW said:
"1. Q: fMRI which has relatively good spatial resolution, but poor temporal resolution with MEG which has excellent temporal resololution, but relatively poor temporal resolution.
A: Very interesting. Exactly how fast (slow) are fMRIs now? I recently had an MRI (of my head), what a primitive piece of … "
To do fMRI studies you usually do two types of scans. The first scan is the type you had, an anatomical scan. This is a very high resolution picture that takes a long time. Then, you do functional scans while the subject is doing some task of interest (e.g. a perceptual task, a cognitive task). The functional scans are faster and measure the levels of oxygenated blood in different regions of the brain. However, due to the physical constraints of the machine, it takes about 2 seconds to do a full scan (all slices) and then start over on the next scan.
You can think of each scan as a quick "picture" of the whole brain. After scanning, the slices are reconstructed as you are going to do with yours. Physicists are working on ways to make the temporal resolution better. It was stuck at about 2 seconds for a long time (still a very normal resolution). Now, some places are, I believe, down to about 1 second.
Still, 1 second is a long time in terms of cognitive processing. So, all of the activation for things that happen at 50 ms after stimulus presentation get smeared together with much later things going on at say, 500-600 ms, etc. Spatial smearing is a problem as well. 3-dimensional voxels are the base unit and these will be several cubic millimeters in volume. Once you do a lot of filtering, normalization and such you get these kind of "blobs" that you see in studies so that you can make a kind of general claim about "where" something is happening. Hopefully, in the future the resolution will get much better.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the current goal is to get down to the level of one cortical column in size?
MEG - which I'm using now - measures the magnetic field around the skull. It has millisecond accuracy but relatively poor spatial resolution. The idea is to use both to get information about both "where" and "when" particular cognitive processes are getting played out. In my case - linguistic processes.
BRKVW said:
"Jokes aside, what have you learned about people that contain more than one language. Of perhaps greater interest are people who contain more than one language structure (as in SOV, SVO)."
This is an interesting question. I'm actually working on a review paper of bilingual imaging studies right now. Well actually it's on the backburner. The literature is a bit of a mess on these issues for several reasons. First there are separate literatures for linguistics, neuroimaging, psycholinguistics, English as a Second Language, etc. In general we know that certain elements of language (such as phonology and certain elements of syntax) *seem* to be very difficult for most people to learn after childhood. A general cutoff for native-like "accent" could be around 4 years of age. Other aspects, such as learning new vocabulary and things like basic word order seem to be learnable at later (adult) ages.
As for SOV and SVO, I believe that they are about equally prevelant in the world's languages. Languages have also, historically, switched from one to the other:
"I thee wed" = SOV
"I love you" = SVO
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Sun, February 6, 2005 - 8:10 PM
1. Q: Still, 1 second is a long time in terms of cognitive processing.
A: Very. Early computer controlled jets updated the controls about every 120 ms, which is one of the reason “fly by wire” got such a bad name. Today they are 10 times faster. The system I’m currently working on updates at 8ms. The speed of ballistics will soon require even faster response time.
2. Q: 3-dimensional voxels
A: Yes, voxels work well to represent this material, but consumes a lot of memory. Polygon based viedo cards have made that tech cheap. I hope the same happens for a voxel based engine one day.
3. Q: Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the current goal is to get down to the level of one cortical column in size?
A: From my view the “goal” is to get to the atomic level and then be able to simulate everything (everything) from the ground up. Every force needs to be at least represented at some resolution, otherwise molecules cannot be modeled. The trick early on is compressing chunks of material at this resolution so that inactive issues can be symbolized. Also, quickly we will learn that most small objects behave in a predictable way, which means we can treat a complex entity as a black box for the most part. What I look forward to is entire neural networks already “taught” with specific jobs. Passed around in files.
4. Q: MEG - which I'm using now –
A: So I’m not clear, can both devices operate at the same time, or they are in fact always different devices? I assume different. But perhaps you have something special.
5. Q: A general cutoff for native-like "accent" could be around 4 years of age.
A: Yeah, I came to America when I was 7, but practiced diligently to overcome my natural accent. I speak English with a non-regional accent, although linguists always know I’m not native (but only linguists).
6. Q: As for SOV and SVO, I believe that they are about equally prevelant in the world's languages.
A: Agreed, the part I’m curious about is how the brain deals with memory (word replacement) vs. skill (sentence structure). Could be very little. I’m also very curious about areas activity for people reading phonetic based written systems vs. Sino languages. Could also be little.
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Sun, February 6, 2005 - 8:38 PMAnita;
So, I assume since MEG is a magnetically-based imaging technology that you run into the same problems as with fMRI; mainly that you can't scan people with implants in there heads. The reason I ask is I'd love to find a good way to measure cortical activity with my retinal prosthetic patients. Right now, we've only done EEG which is okay but not great. We're looking into doing EEP in place of VEP's but I'd like to look into some way of imaging the activity. Perhaps PET? -
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Sun, February 6, 2005 - 8:45 PMIt has metal electrodes and wiring. I don't know the exact materials but we've certainly evaluated the possiblity of using an fMRI and it's a no go. If that's your question. -
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Sun, February 6, 2005 - 8:54 PMIf it has any type of ferromagnetic metal I would assume that would not be happy.
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Mon, February 7, 2005 - 7:57 AMNo, you can't scan people with implants in their heads. Actually, we can't scan anyone with metal above the waist. It's not dangerous (like putting someone with shrapnel in an fMRI). Since the MEG is passive, it won't hurt them in any way to put people in that have metal. But, the metal creates so much noise in the magnetic signal, that it wipes out the small signal change due to the task manipulation.
I *think* PET would be okay (although I've never done PET so I'm not sure). What are EEP and VEP? I don't know those abbreviations.
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Mon, February 7, 2005 - 7:54 AM"A: So I ’m not clear, can both devices operate at the same time, or they are in fact always different devices? I assume different. But perhaps you have something special."
No, they are different devices. Some people are trying to combine methods - but right now - you have to run people in both devices.
Agreed, the part I ’m curious about is how the brain deals with memory (word replacement) vs. skill (sentence structure). Could be very little. I ’m also very curious about areas activity for people reading phonetic based written systems vs. Sino languages. Could also be little.
Here's a good place to start for the first question.
Ullman, M. T., Corkin, S., Coppola, M., Hickok, G., Growdon, J. H., Koroshetz, W. J., & Pinker, S. (1997). A Neural Dissociation within Language: Evidence that the mental dictionary is part of declarative memory, and that grammatical rules are processed by the procedural system. Journal of Cognitive Neuroscience, 9(2), 266-276.
Here's a good place to start for the second question.
Title: The neural system underlying Chinese logograph reading
Author(s): Tan LH, Liu HL, Perfetti CA, Spinks JA, Fox PT, Gao JH
Source: NEUROIMAGE 13 (5): 836-846 MAY 2001
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Wed, February 9, 2005 - 10:29 PMErrr - so "hello". Anyone out there? What do the rest of you work on? ;-) -
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Thu, February 10, 2005 - 1:12 AMLOL.
Well, I’m a cognitive computer scientist. But if success in this field is defined as making a sentient computer--I have so far failed. On the other hand, if success is defined as making a computer smarter than most people, I won…LOL.
I’m actually cautious about mixing business with pleasure (I consider Tribe mostly pleasure), so I tend not to dump a lot of info here.
However, one of the odd things I do (in the how the hell do you make money type of “do”) I design slot machines, hence I won. You cannot walk into a casino, river boat, or gambling hall on a reservation in the world without seeing my systems. I have designed over 100 video slot machines, including the first multimedia slot machine built on the Windows platform (this is not a point of pride, but just proof one can get blood out of turnip). They ran for 5 years without ever crashing.
One small project I’m working on is designing a computer simulator for one of the big aerospace firms that are in the news recently for steeling money from the US government. Annoyingly, we are being paid out of those monies, and we are working on that project. That aside, it is a cool project that is needed.
But this is all small stuff. My big project, which I’m privately funding is about 10 man years in now, it is one of the reasons I’m on Tribe. Although it has nothing to do with Tribe per se, there are elements in the tribe architecture that interests me. Especially how people chat, and track where they are in a conversation. All of Tribe would be considered a sub feature of our system. I met with the lead programmer of Tribe recently, and I’m even more impressed with Tribe having spoken with him. Our system became just a little more robust because of one trick though (and the reason I’m detailing this for you), which enables every single word of the site to be indexed from a database.
As a result, we can allow any user to localize our site to any language. So for example, if you were German, we give you a magic code that moves the site into a frame, and adds some special buttons. Now you can click on any word, sentence, button, etc. and translate it. It is really nice. I’m a big fan of Charlie Chaplin because he made silent movies realizing that he wanted the whole world to laugh. So it was important to him to keep making his message translate everywhere. One of the specialties of our company is that our products are internationalized and/or localized into as little as 6 languages, as many as 22.
One click and the site magically changes into Spanish for example. It is even cool for us. Because you don’t see the refresh, just….subtly…the words just change.
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Thu, February 10, 2005 - 6:05 AMHi,
I am just a computer geek. I don't really work in neuro science but I like the subject.
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Tue, March 15, 2005 - 2:35 PMI am finishing up my 2nd year of college, nearing completion of my Associates in Biology at a local junior college here in KC. I am transfering my credits to the University of Missouri-Columbia this fall, instead of going the Associates route.
My major at Mizzou will be Biochemistry. My plans are still hazy, as I am still pretty fresh into college. I am extremely interested in neuroscience, and hope to steer my career in that direction. I figure I will do my Graduate studies in either pharmacology or Physiology. I am opting for Physiology, and hope to do research work in Neurophysiology.
I don't know what kind of research I would do, but as long as it isn't merely working on medicine for migranes I would be happy. I have a ways to go though. Wish me luck.
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Fri, February 11, 2005 - 9:10 AMI'm a grad student at the Dept. of Cognitive and Neural Systems at BU in the Computer Vision and Computational Neuroscience lab....
eslab.bu.edu
Our lab is generally interested in visual topography, pin-wheels, functional architecture, etc of early vision. The computational portion of our lab's interest is in investigating the quantitative aspects of techniques like optical recording and fMRI as well as computational models of early vision. The computer vision half o f the lab (my side...) is working on computer vision paradigms that are biologically inspired. In particular we are interested in using the space-variant architecture of the visual system to build efficient computer vision systems.
My background is:
Bachelor in Math
Bachelor in Physics
I'm in a post-bachelors Phd program (2/3 of the way through...)
I'll post some thoughts on the spatial and temporal resolution of fMRI in a bit since one of our current projects is quantifying what that is.
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Fri, February 11, 2005 - 5:08 PMWisp, has Varela left any legacy in your lab? :-)
I:
postdoc @ UCSF
neuroscience and cog science trained
working on multisensory integration, speech perception/production, auditory cortex plasticity, perceptual learning and seeing through the fog.
EEG,MEG,fMRI and good old psychophysics...
Just got annoyed by the "Understanding the nature of the mind" tribe and back to real stuff...I think.
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Fri, February 11, 2005 - 7:06 PMHey all;
I'm working on the retinal prosthetic project at USC. Here's a link to the company that is planning on marketing and manufacturing the device in the future, if you're interested:
www.2-sight.com/
I'm primarily using psychophysics to determine how well the implant contributes to perception. This is all really pretty low-level-vision stuff. Frequency, brightness, etc. I'm also hoping to use this data, along with some electrophysiological data collected from retina's in a dish, to model how extracellular stimulation can become a percept with a degenerated retina.
Also kind of interested in perceptual learning. I'm planning on doing an experiment that looks into external motivators and how they may influence perceptual learning.
All human testing, BTW. Big monkeys are my favorite!!! Except for the retinas in a dish, of course. Those come from Domino's. -
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Fri, February 11, 2005 - 8:24 PMToo true! Very funny. We are going wireless with the next generation which will be in about a year or so. More resolution as well. Right now it's only a four by four matrix which is only really useful for the type of testing I do. No real world stuff.
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Fri, February 11, 2005 - 8:55 PMWe very much agree.
A close friend of mine is a theoretical physicist. Every time I see him I ask him “are you useful yet?” I’m not sure he will ever be able to say “yes,” but given the nature of things, neither is he.
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Wed, February 16, 2005 - 7:17 PMCool!
So I am curious what sampling scheme your retina-chip is and if it is VLSI or CCD-esk ... ? Did you model it after ganglion cell density ?
Is any of this an extention of previous retina chips by Sandia and/or Levine ?
Our lab (my advisor) is all about retinotopy and was one of the first people to develop a 2D model of cortical magnification factor (The complex log(z+a). We at some point had a retina chip project of our own with Carver Mead....
Does your lab have any publications on your chip design and have lab web page ? I am totally curious about the details!
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Sat, February 26, 2005 - 12:51 AMHey there;
Sorry it's taken me so long to respond; I've just been painfully busy.
So, to the best of my knowledge, it is an extension of the chip Sandia was working on. However, most of our technological implementation, outside of the actual electrode array design, is based on the cochlear implant. As far as modeling it after ganglion cell density, I'm not exactly sure what you mean. However, I would guess not. Right now it's only 16 electrodes so it's not terribly representative of a typical ganglion layer. But, with retinal degeneration, 16 may be a bit closer to a 1:1 ratio than with a healthy retina;). Retinal degeneration makes modeling a chip based on a typical ganglion distribution a worthless cause. Unfortunately. If you're interested in that kind of stuff I recommend Robert Marc's papers.
The lab I'm in just started up this year so there's no lab webpage as of yet. My advisor's Ione Fine who also has a bit of history with retinotopy in cortex. We're more interested in modeling the system (the electrical stimulation of cells leads to perception system) than the hardware design.
BTW, do you know anyone who's modeling degeneration in the retina?
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Wed, February 16, 2005 - 7:09 PMVarela ? Hmm... DO you mean Franciso Varela ? No I can't say that it falls within our labs interests.... We are far on the skeptical side of the entire "conciousness" game.
To give you a bit of flavor of how much so, check out my advisors list of "falicies" cns.bu.edu/~eric/comp_neuro_tricks.html
Our lab and interests tends to be much more physics-minded wrt to measurement, quantitation, data analysis and then modelling... and that isn't even really able to be done yet in V1 !
Of course much of this is def. an old debate... one of my fav. jokes along these lines is "How do you pronounce psychophysics ? Is is psychoPYHSICS or PSYCHOphysics ?" ;)
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Wed, February 16, 2005 - 7:54 PMmmhh...double-check your lab history...Francisco Varela spent some time in your lab. While having been popularized for the consciousness side of his research, much fundamental science has also gone through his hands - from basic molecular biology to consciousness.
Sadly enough, few scientists have the guts and the instinct to preserve their curiosity (knowledgeably) open nowadays.
A basic anatomical fact that might explain a little about why approaching the nervous system as a bottom-up stimulus analyzer is doomed to fail (if not considering the 'mind' as part of the equation):
20% of your inputs to V1 comes from the retina. That leaves 80% of them being the cortex talking to itself.
So a behavioristic approach is indeed useful and necessary, but reducible to not even a quarter of the system's potential.
The point here is that each scientific field is at a different stage of progress in the history of science. Real physicists have a critical approach not a condescending one (which essentially seems to be the flavor of your post). So word plays are indeed delectable when taken for what they are, word plays.
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Wed, February 16, 2005 - 10:08 PMThis is a long tangent…but have fun with it.
I love this one: “CARGO CULT” from your link. It is a phrase (idiom, story) that I can often use, and never had a reference.
For example, I have studied martial arts for about 2 decades, but slowed to a stop over the past 10. Recently I joined a Dojo. It is not the discipline of my past training, as a matter of fact I have never been in a dojo like this before (it is a mish-mash of styles from different cultures), and appears to be run by a sort of ad-hoc group of teachers (and students).
They all seem hell bent on making people “yell” Ki-a. I’m not a loud person, and they keep demanding I yell it. Now, what is annoying is the reason one expels a noise is so that that the teacher can “hear” (confirm) that people are breathing correctly.
But here in America, they have lost the meaning, and think it is about making noise, as opposed to the reason I gave, and several other (like what the word actually means in Japanese, which is a longer than worth describing here).
It is at moments like that I want to tell a story…
“which essentially seems to be the flavor of your post”
A: funny, I did not read what you wrote as condescending. You even throw in those happy faces to make this clear. Something I don’t even do.
“Sadly enough, few scientists have the guts and the instinct to preserve their curiosity (knowledgeably) open nowadays.”
A: I think of this the other way around. Scientist have been getting much better at checking their facts before throwing around their opinions, a very dangerous thing to do, since people often jump on the words of authoritative figure, an all too common practice here on Tribe.
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Thu, February 17, 2005 - 8:09 AMIf I misinterpreted or neglected Wisp's prosody, then I do apologize. If not, I am open to discussion. And in any case, happy to meet you all too :-)
"Ki-a"
BRKW re. popularization of science or 'people jumping on the words of authoritative figures'. Who is to be blamed? There are only 2 ways to go about science.
1. Either science/knowledge is democratized, and misunderstandings are unavoidable - it simply comes down to an individual's interest and ethics to verify what they believe they understood (and after all, isn't it the point of a forum a la Socrate?) or,
2. It remains elitist and inaccessible to the common spheres.
"Ki-a"
I am now evolving in the former system (US), where popular science gets to the worst and best of research. But I was raised in the latter (France being an elitist country).
I do believe that years of education provide a depth of understanding that would not necessarily be accessible by a lay audience. One obvious barrier being the highly specific linguo and semantic associations that only one word in one type of science can bring about . Nothing elistist in this, simply that the nitty gritty of a science has big implications for a particular problem, while on the surface not necessarily having a big impact.
"Ki-a"
So there is an underlying interesting ethical issues in your comment re. responsibility of a scientist. I have been asked this question often and still have not reached a conclusion. Could be an other thread....
"Ki-a"...Hope I paced that one correctly !
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Thu, February 17, 2005 - 1:32 PMHmmm.... Tis true that little is understood about the role of feedback in the brain for example, but not being able to validate the possible open interpretations of its actions which are often not rooted in biology is the difficulty with the Top-down approach... For instance, much of the feedback say between adjacent areas can be modelled as necessary for simple control-theoretic feedback-system stability leaving much less leaway for it being the primary perceptual factor.
btw.....
F. Varela was a grad student with my advisor in Roy Jon's lab at NYU and the origin of the co-publication and mention of association with the lab... but our lab is trying the "field-theory" style of trying to sort out what is going on in early vision.
For instance, the existence of a variety of columnar systems (occular dominance, orientation columns, etc) are all well established and that topography exists is also well established... So I would say that our lab's modelling philosophy is based on the notion that these representations will place constraints on higher-level use of that information computationally and its worth charting out and taking seriously quantitatively. There are some very exciting recent results using two-photon imaging that should clarify some long-standing confusions...but given that ambiguity even within the very first representation of visual information we as a lab are more interested in getting that sorted before
we focus on how higher levels form a percept from it !
*whew* The cultural role and perception of science and scientists is complicated ! That might deserve to be another thread. It is very interesting how some many recent results in the cognitive neurosci. lit have ended up cast into a cultural role by the media.... -
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Thu, February 17, 2005 - 4:02 PMyes, Cog Sci is such a big topic it makes it easy to tangent in many directions. for the good or the bad.
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Sun, February 20, 2005 - 8:52 AM>Just got annoyed by the "Understanding the nature of the mind" >tribe and back to real stuff...I think.
Yes, sorry about that Virginie. I'm trying to get people on track, though.
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Mon, June 13, 2005 - 1:31 PMIm md in the middle of my research fellowship, with way too many interestests,...
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